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liz_marcs ([personal profile] liz_marcs) wrote2007-02-01 01:49 pm

Drive-by post: Outing myself

Yes, indeed. I just outed myself over on TwOP as someone who actually likes Kennedy.

Truthfully, by the end of S7, I liked her more than Willow.

Granted, introducing Kennedy in S7 sucked because she, like Andrew, stole time away from the characters I really cared about (Buffy, Giles, Xander, and Willow).

Despite that, I still like the character. Unlike Andrew. Whom I hate with the passion of a thousand fire-y nuns seriously dislike, mostly because ME kept shoving him down my throat and playing DEMAND LOVE when it came to Andrew.

First I'm a Xander fan. Now I'm a self-proclaimed Kennedy-liker.

Is it any wonder my corner of Buffy fandom is cold and lonely?

I fully expect to be ripped apart by Kittens over on TwOP.

Maybe I can distract them with catnip...

[identity profile] liz-marcs.livejournal.com 2007-02-01 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
See? I didn't dislike Eve either. (Yes, yes, my corner is cold and lonely indeed.)

What it boiled down to was that Eve was not-Lilah, in the same way that Kennedy was not-Tara, Riley was not-Angel, and Kate was not-Buffy.

Now, you can dislike the way Staphanie Romanov was let go and the reasons for it. (According to her, she knew he number was up when she criticized a re-write of one of her scenes as not being as good as the original and found out she had criticized the Great Joss.) That's not Eve's problem. Sure, the actress wasn't the greatest, but I liked the character just fine.
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[identity profile] entrenous88.livejournal.com 2007-02-01 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
ah, you know, I didn't realize that's why Stephanie Romanov left. What a shame, because she was a damn fine actress.

But right, that's not Eve's (or Sarah Thompson's) fault. I don't think she was that bad an actress, actually -- I think they weren't quite sure where they wanted to take the character, and went back and forth with her traits just to have her serve an organizational-narrative function, making her contradictory when it suited their purposes.

For Eve and Thompson, I really liked the period after Lindsey disappeared, and she went into hiding. There was some nice work there.

And the character -- so much more could have been done there, writing wise. I'm very curious about her.

[identity profile] jakeexperience.livejournal.com 2007-02-01 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Is that the reason Stephanie Romanov left? If so, forcing her to leave seems really petty and childish. Not to mention that having her around during Season Five would have been very interesting.

(Anonymous) 2007-02-04 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, according to rumors "petty" and "childish" are Joss' middle names.

[identity profile] skipp-of-ark.livejournal.com 2007-02-02 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
Does that make Andrew "not-Xander"? Or is there more to the Andrew hate? Part of why I couldn't stand the twerp was the feeling that he was supposed to be a Spike-friendly, non-threatening replacement for Xander in the role of comic relief, except that a) Xander was still there, and b) after Him or so, ME weren't even trying to figure out what Xander's role/place was. Which leads to the question of how long was the plan to kill Xander in place before Joss changed his mind?

[identity profile] set-aka-ian.livejournal.com 2007-02-02 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I loved Kennedy, especially when she was smarting off to a whiny Potential. After Buffy, it was refreshing to see someone who *wanted* to be a Slayer. Plus her face reminds me of Jenny Calender. That's a look I love. Also, not a huge Tara fan, so I didn't feel any hate for her replacing St. Drug-Enabler.

Eve? Eh. Suffered seriously from not-being-Lilah. Lilah was incredibly snarky and fun and, oh yeah, drop-dead gorgeous. Eve wasn't any of those things, sounding vaguely bitchy and being way too skinny and young-looking to be attractive to those of us who like consenting adults.

The backstage rumor-mongering is always a hoot. *I* heard that Stephanie Romanov was 'let go' because her behind-the-scenes snuggling with David Boreanaz was ruining his marriage.

As for Andrew, yes, there are not enough exploding suns to convey the hate. I don't care if he took away from Xander. The fact that he sucked intensely is enough to earn my ire. I don't like watching people embarrass themselves, it makes me uncomfortable (the scene in Him, where Dawn is doing the cheerleader routine about RJ? I have to *leave the room,* I kid you not!). Every time Andrew opens his mouth I cringe and feel bad for the actor, that he had to play this caricature.

Andrew on Buffy, to me, is like watching an episode of M.A.S.H. and suddenly *Urkel* wanders into the tent and steals all the screetime away from Hawkeye and Winchester's witty repartess with lame klutz routines.

Andrew is one of those characters who belongs on some lame short-lived UPN shows with a laugh track... Oh *snap!*

[identity profile] liz-marcs.livejournal.com 2007-02-02 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I know you're a guy and all but I have to ask, "Michele? Is that you?"

Seriously, I have a friend who who had to do the exact same thing in Him. She can't watch anything where people embarrass themselves, even if it's in fiction.

[identity profile] set-aka-ian.livejournal.com 2007-02-02 09:32 pm (UTC)(link)
[quote] I know you're a guy and all but I have to ask, "Michele? Is that you?" [/quote]

I've been called worse. :)

[quote] Seriously, I have a friend who who had to do the exact same thing in Him. She can't watch anything where people embarrass themselves, even if it's in fiction. [/quote]

Oh yeah, you should see me squirm during the American Pie movies when the main character is caught with his hand glued down his shorts or whatever. I'm hopeless.