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liz_marcs ([personal profile] liz_marcs) wrote2007-05-21 12:25 pm

FanLib: 101 Reasons to Stay Away

Back in March, I was made aware of FanLib when [livejournal.com profile] entrenous88 was dinged with an "invite" to join the site. I was dinged about a week later.

Reading the ToS of FanLib, I figured that I had to be seeing things. It was that bad, and that unfair to fanfic writers. If anything, it looked like a con. [livejournal.com profile] entrenous88 graciously gut-checked me and backed up the itchy feeling I had about the whole thing.

Let's just say I was relieved that I wasn't the only one who was just a leeetle leery about this.

Then I just let it drop. I wasn't interested. The site looked like it was nothing more than a fraud at best, or a way to bilk fanfic writers out of money at worst.

Guess what?

FanLib falls into the "at worst" category. While Buffy-related fanfiction wank was eating my corner of LJ and mold allergies were eating my brain, FanLib officially opened its doors.

Somehow, I don't think FanLib was expecting a round of raspberries and Bronx cheers from the very people they hoped to scam free content out of, do you?

Funnily enough, that's exactly what happened. Fractious fandom suddenly turned into the United Federation of Fandom Universes and gave FanLib the big-ol' stink-eye.

Then they started talking and spreading the news. Being writers and readers, that means there were raging discussions about FanLib, with people claiming to be associated with the site making comments in people's journals.

If these people are actually "employees" of FanLib, they seriously need to go to charm school...or at least figure out who they're talking to. Most fanfic writers are not teeny-booper fanbrats, so stop talking to us like we are.

I was going to put together something myself, but thanks to FandomWank and Fanthropology I don't have to do damn thing.

(Be sure to read the self-identified FanLib gnomes defending the company on Fanthropology. Note that the really tough questions about who's making money, copyright issues, and the question of who actually owns the fic that gets put on the site are left unanswered. Also note from the comments that it's blindingly clear that FanLib did almost zero market research on fanfic writers.)

To get up to speed on the whole FanLib scam (and yes, it is a scam — I don't care how many legit backers they have): [livejournal.com profile] icarusancalion has outlined the primary problems with FanLib in a most excellent article. Be sure to read the comments, too.

[livejournal.com profile] stewardess has a link-o-rama of opinions and discussions around LJ. Comments on this and all posts are also very much worth the read.

Yes, it'll take several hours to read through (possibly several days). However, I urge you all to read through everything and decide for yourselves.

Let's make something clear: While this is certainly the most aggressive attempt I've ever seen to make money off the backs of fanfiction writers, you can be absolutely certain — with the same certainty that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west — that it most definitely won't be the last.

ETA: [livejournal.com profile] ladycat777 calls out these post by [livejournal.com profile] telesilla as deserving of special attention. She attempts to engage the FanLib braintrust in comments, but doesn't get anywhere. Her posts do appear on [livejournal.com profile] stewardess's collection of links, but I agree that she has a take worth paying attention to.

ETA2: On the advice of [livejournal.com profile] humbleminion I've removed the link to FanLib. It appears they earn ad revenue based on page hits. I've got no desire to give them money.

ETA3: [livejournal.com profile] marenfic points to
this excellent blog entry that excellently puts into words the problems I have with FanLib from the perspective of a woman who's both a fan and a well-educated professional.

One note of interest in the article from FeministSF [livejournal.com profile] marenfic points to: One of the FanLib founders is associated with SixApart, which just so happens to own LJ. Well, well, well. That is an interesting nugget of information to consider. And I don't mean that in a good way.
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[identity profile] entrenous88.livejournal.com 2007-05-23 11:57 am (UTC)(link)
If it's any comfort, there are men in fandom who aren't anything like the people running FanLib.
I absolutely agree! And it is a comfort, seriously, because we have some great guys in the Buffyverse fandom alone, not to mention other fans in other fandoms I've run into.

I just think these particular guys are a bunch of men who have never so much as dipped their toes into fanfiction-fandom, and had no clue that it would consist mostly of women, or how to talk to that demographic without sounding patronizing. I think also that because they thought it was mostly women, they were the sorts of guys who assumed they could come in and start structuring, and ...um...we'd just jump up and follow along? Be their cheerleaders? Work for free?

I don't think they were expecting anyone to be skeptical or ask serious questions or have a reasoned reaction against it. And their reactions to some of those reasoned responses have been a little angry, on the order of "Can't you all see what we're doing for you?" O_o.

[identity profile] invisionary.livejournal.com 2007-05-23 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I just think these particular guys are a bunch of men who have never so much as dipped their toes into fanfiction-fandom, and had no clue that it would consist mostly of women, or how to talk to that demographic without sounding patronizing.

Yeah. You may very well be right about that. And it's problematic, because they clearly want to exploit fanfiction writers (by making money off their work while giving them nothing in return), and since they're men and fanfic writers are (mostly) women.... I guess I can see how that situation might take on sexist overtones. And the way they've been talking to fandom at large hasn't helped any.

Whatever the reasons behind the way they've acted, I don't want anything to do with them, and I'm not surprised that there are lots of other people out there who feel the same way.