Lizbeth Marcs ([identity profile] liz-marcs.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] liz_marcs 2005-07-27 09:24 pm (UTC)

Okay, I concede the point about Tara. I've only seen S6 in its entirety twice and what snippets I've viewed beyond that tend to be more Xander-centric and was connected to writing Water.

Needless to say, I use the Buffy Guide a lot for anything related to S6 and S7.

I think I may have wiped it because of the St. Tara-of-the-Roses the writers tended to be shoving down our throats.

As for Buffy and Spike, I don't disagree with you at all. In fact, I heartily agree with it. And as I've stated before, I actually didn't have an issue with how the Buffy-Spike relationship was played in S6 because, hello, Spike didn't have a soul and really doesn't have a sense of right and wrong. He's a walking id with legs who's extremely possessive. My issue with it is completely meta (how some quarters of fandom tried to romanticize it into something it wasn't).

Also, how the Spike-Buffy relationship played out in S7 and the sidelining of the Scoobs (most notably Giles and Xander) really left a bad taste in my mouth. Plus, I just think the whole season was poorly constructed once you get beyond Conversations With Dead People from a storytelling perspective. But that's another rant for another day.

For the purposes above, I was arguing the whole "trust issue" more from Buffy's pov, as opposed to an overall description of the intra-Scooby dynamic. They're all to blame on some level, the degree to which who is most at fault is open for debate, depending on your particular fanwank and your particular favorite character. I tend to put the greatest amount of blame on Buffy for her isolation during S7, mostly because she had learned this same lesson (she's not alone) no less than a million times before. (This is why S5 Buffy is my favorite iteration: she finally got it and was willing to stand up to the Council on that principle!) Other people tend to blame Spike. Some people can make a good argument that Robin was the person who finally tipped things over the edge.

*shrug*

Like I said, I agree with you.

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