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anniesj.
It's one of those things that make you go WtF? How the hell did we get here.
Truthfully, when I started reading I thought it was yet another story of the FBI intimidating someone over "loyalty pledges" when someone tried to gain entry to a GeeDubbya cult rally.
Imagine my shock when this was something even more frightening than that.
Imagine my second shock when I realized that I'm now viewing the idea of "loyalty pledges" just to see the Preznut aka "Our Glorious Leader" as par for the course when it comes to The Tinhat Administration.
God, I cannot wait for January 20th when we finally evict all these assholes.
One problem: I only wish we had some hint showing us that this long slide into the surveillance state was going to be reversed with the rise of a Donkey Administration.
Really, just when I think I'm being paranoid, something happens to show that I'm not nearly being paranoid enough.
anniesj. It's one of those things that make you go WtF? How the hell did we get here.
Truthfully, when I started reading I thought it was yet another story of the FBI intimidating someone over "loyalty pledges" when someone tried to gain entry to a GeeDubbya cult rally.
Imagine my shock when this was something even more frightening than that.
Imagine my second shock when I realized that I'm now viewing the idea of "loyalty pledges" just to see the Preznut aka "Our Glorious Leader" as par for the course when it comes to The Tinhat Administration.
God, I cannot wait for January 20th when we finally evict all these assholes.
One problem: I only wish we had some hint showing us that this long slide into the surveillance state was going to be reversed with the rise of a Donkey Administration.
Really, just when I think I'm being paranoid, something happens to show that I'm not nearly being paranoid enough.
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Sad but true. I just posted the link on my LJ and was hoping you'd see it.
I'll be one of the first in line at the polls come Tuesday morning.
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I'm going to try and be there by 7 on Tuesday.
Something tells me there's going to be a hell of a turnout.
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I think you're right, and MA isn't even a contested state. It says a lot about the mood in the country right now - so many of us are worried and frightened about the possibility of another four years with this administration. It's going to be a tough week and then some until we get the final results.
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Kerry has said, point blank, that he wants an end to the Ashcroft-era. That is a hella good start.
I voted today. Now I'm free to spend all day Nov 2 knocking on doors getting others to vote.
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Someone reported to the Secret Service a potential threat to the President, and the Secret Service did what they are legally mandated to do since inception: investigate and assess the legitimacy of this threat. They -- within, what, 24 hours? -- looked into the person involved, informed them of the investigation and got a response, and did their job. Case closed.
This has nothing to do with the current administration, and to put this on them -- when there are plenty of other sketchy and downright horrible things which can be accurately contributed to them -- merely takes attention away from the lies and mistakes we should be pointing out and demanding answers for.
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Unfortunately, dick heads have always been around and always will, regardless of who is in the White House. People have falsely reported those they do not like to authorities for ages, dating back to well before the creation of our country.
No new laws or attitudes came in to play in this situation.
Could they have? Certainly. But to attribute this case to those laws allows those who created the laws to defend them, to say they were not at fault here -- and to be correct. These laws, the improper search and seisure and the library lists and the holding without criminal charges, they are laws which should not be; they should be illegal.
If we press those who made the laws about situations that can be legitimately dismissed -- which they can, here, as none of those laws came into play at all -- then what happens when we press them on a subject where it is applicable? We've already lost credibility. No one listens; we're the people who complained about that spat on Live Journal.
Our freedom is too important to give those who would take it away the ability to be right, even for a moment.
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(Anonymous) 2004-10-28 02:32 am (UTC)(link)Except for the bit about her no longer being able to fly on airplanes, or being subject to random home searches *with or without her awareness.*
That's definitely something added with the Patriot Act, and this administration.
If she'd made nasty comments about Bill Clinton 5 years ago, she could still fly around the country, and could expect to come home and not find the Secret Service digging through her underwear drawer. In fact, if she'd made nasty comments, or even prayed for the death of, Bill Clinton, she could have been a millionaire with her own radio show and called herself Rush Limbaugh, or a Sunday morning TV show and called herself Jerry Falwell...
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First off, that's not a given. It takes much more than that to get put on the no-fly list; her lawyer said it was a possibility, and he wasn't sure, so he would look into it more. Lawyer's don't make statements unless they're 100% posititive. Doesn't mean he wasn't 95% positive it wasn't a problem.
Secondly, terrorists flew airplanes into a heavily populated area and killed a bunch of people. Of course there are no-fly lists now! Even if Ralph Nader won the election in 2000, there would be such precautionary measures. Yes, they're a little late. Yes, I agree they won't do much. But that doesn't make them any less inevitable, regardless of which administration.
Second, I can assure you that while Rush Limbaugh has said some incredibly nasty things about any and probably all Democrats, at no time would he have mentioned the death of Clinton. This is a Federal offense. Did you know that all military personel are required to report any and all threats made against the President, even if they know they are a joke? It's law. It has been for a good, long time.
There is so much shit to be laid at the Bush administration's doorstep. Intelligence lapses, outright lies, cronyism, blatant fiscal nonsense, a ridiculous economy -- why would we want to lay things at his door he can easily answer to when there are so many other things he refuses to answer to? Every trivial thing we bring up deflects from the more important stuff.
now you guys