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liz_marcs ([personal profile] liz_marcs) wrote2009-06-02 10:03 am

Why Those Who Ask About "Troublesome Priests" Should Be Held Responsible

So says Frank Schaeffer. Yes that Frank Schaeffer.

If you don't want to click the links, let me explain: Frank Schaeffer, along with his late father, built the modern religious right movement and created virulently anti-abortion film in 1979.

And yes, he backs up everything that I said here about the violent rhetoric of the anti-abortion movement when they think they're among friends. Read the comments in that post. I've got more back-up there, too.

I urge you to watch the 10-minute clip where Schaeffer apologizes for the murder of Dr. George Tiller, despite the fact that he's turned on the Christianist movement and is working like hell to undo the damage he's done in their name (note to self: Get Crazy for God: How I Grew Up as One of the Elect, Helped Found the Religious Right, and Lived to Take All (or Almost All) of It Back out of the library).

But first, if you want to understand the unmitigated good Dr. Tiller did, [personal profile] a2zmom offers up an old post where she calmly and concisely explains what exactly a third-trimester abortion actually means.

Then read this testimony from one of Dr. Tiller's patients. (Read the comments, too, as they are yielding up quite a lot of information about the actual law about late-term abortions, other patients of Dr. Tiller's, and people's borderline violent run-ins with the anti-abortion movement).

If you're up to getting your heart broken again, here is another patient of Dr. Tiller's explaining how important this man was to his desperate patients.

There are links all over the place, and people sharing their stories as well, about the necessity of keeping abortion legal — including third-trimester abortions which are invariably medically necessary and not (as those rampant liars in the anti-abortion movement would have you believe) used as a "form of birth control" or because women in their 8th or 9th month "suddenly decided they didn't want the baby."

If you think I'm overstating the cases that it's high time we hold the talking heads of the anti-abortion movement along with their right-wing enablers responsible for the violence, I've got nothing on Frank Schaeffer, the guy who actually helped build the movement back in the day.

Schaeffer does not mince words on this. At all.








Here's a direct link to the same video clip on MSNBC, since for some reason I can't do a direct embed.


Again, work is kind of hellish. So for anyone who comments, I'll just barely be able to monitor comments, but probably won't be wading into the middle.

Keep it non-violent, folks, or you're going to get bonked on the head.
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[personal profile] kore 2009-06-04 12:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Schaeffer does not mince words on this. At all.

//jawdrop

Wow, thank you for linking that.

[identity profile] lostakasha.livejournal.com 2009-06-02 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I had no idea he'd written a book, and when I saw him on Rachel Maddow last night I was aghast -- his is a message that needs to be screamed from the rooftops.

I lurk in your LJ all the time and appreciate your thoughtful and intricate posts so much, but I've rarely (if ever) told you that. So, thanks, truly.

[identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com 2009-06-02 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you know how to start a petition on the Petition Site? I'm thinking a petition to charge that son of a bitch as a domestic terrorist would be a real good idea.
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[identity profile] korilian.livejournal.com 2009-06-02 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for these links. This is just... I've rarely been happier that I'm not living in the States.
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[identity profile] redbrickrose.livejournal.com 2009-06-02 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
That interview is really amazing. Thanks so much for that link.

[identity profile] davegodfrey.livejournal.com 2009-06-02 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
This is the I don't get with the pro-life lobby. Why have they gone after the abortions that you'd think anyone who knows anything about healthcare (regardless of their views on abortion) would view as being essential to keep legal- the ones where the life of the mother is threatened.

[identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com 2009-06-03 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
"Pro-life" = anti-women. The life of the mother doesn't count with these people.

[identity profile] drmercurious.livejournal.com 2009-06-02 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Good gods. No he don't, does he? For myself, I will call for a moment of silence for the death of Dr. Tiller -- a man who did a neccessary job with apparent warmth and compassion, and was hated for it.

[identity profile] texanfan.livejournal.com 2009-06-03 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
That is a great interview. I really wish that the media didn't give the extremists, like O'Reilly, airtime.