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liz_marcs ([personal profile] liz_marcs) wrote2009-05-21 09:20 am

You, my FList, are fired!

Someone utterly failed to tell me that Robert Wisdom was in S4 of Supernatural.

Gah!

Supernatural's icky race and gender issues squick me the fuck out to the point where I can't ignore it, but there are in fact some actors for whom I'm willing to override that squick.

Like the awesome Robert Wisdom aka, the super-awesome Bunny Colvin from The Wire.

I love Bunny Colvin leik whoah! And I really love Robert Wisdom.

I would so endure Supernatural for Robert Wisdom. And there are only a few actors for whom I'd cross that line.

Aw, hell. I'd cross that line for just about entire cast of my beloved The Wire.

Do you know how I found out? Do you?

Someone on my FList (I forget who) was threatening to write a The Wire/Supernatural crossover about how Bunny Colvin ended up hosting Uriel.

For those of you who have no idea what I'm talking about, re: The awesomeness of Robert Wisdom and his portrayal of Bunny Colvin:

Bunny Colvin's famous "there's never been a paper bag" speech from The Wire S3:












And here's Bunny Colvin in S4 explaining why education doesn't work for the corner kids:












Damn it, damn it, damn it! I'm going to have to Netflix Supernatural S4, aren't I? Just so I can watch Robert Wisdom do his thing.

Bah! I'll put up with the icky race and gender issues just to catch Robert Wisdom on Supernatural.

Damn it.
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[personal profile] turnonmyheels 2009-05-22 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
He's not in enough episodes to merit netflixing the entire season, I suggest Hulu if you must. Also? I'm afraid it will trigger you on the icky race/gender issues for REAL.

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[personal profile] lilacsigil 2009-05-22 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Um, no, I don't think you should do that. Stick with the fanfic to avoid disappointment and blinding rage.

[identity profile] bastardsnow.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 02:33 pm (UTC)(link)
FYI, he was also in an episode of How I Met Your Mother this season. Just one episode, though.

Also, Marlo and Bubbles were on Heroes... I don't remember if it was last season, or this season before I stopped watching.

And Amy Ryan and Idris Elba have been on The Office.
Edited 2009-05-21 14:36 (UTC)

[identity profile] hpchick.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 02:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Seth Gilliam was on a really bad episode of CSI:Miami. I could probably just say he was on an episode of CSI:Miami because the "really bad" part is a given.

I'm going to have to rewatch the Marlo & Bubbles episodes of Heroes. I just watched The Wire recently so I didn't know who they were the first time I saw them on Heroes.

[identity profile] hpchick.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 03:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Bunny Colvin Rocks! I loved the whole Hampsterdam plot.

I didn't know who he was when I first watched his episodes of Supernatural so I was thoroughly confused when people kept talking about Bunny. I didn't remember anyone named Bunny in the episode. Even after watching The Wire, I didn't make the connection until I saw him in a recent Supernatural previouslies. I was like, "Oh My God! Bunny!" Everything suddenly made sense.

[identity profile] liz-marcs.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 03:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahahahahahahahaha!

I can imagine you sitting there going, "Why is everyone calling Uriel 'Bunny'?"

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

So how far are you along with The Wire? Seen the whole series, or have you just gotten beyond S3 (with Hampsterdam)?

*looks around*

I'm on my fifth re-watching in less than a year. Which is kind of scary.

[identity profile] hpchick.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Just finished the whole series about 2 weeks ago. I caught the 1st 2 seasons on demand but I couldn't wait so I bought the whole set. It's awesome. I want more.

My brother has watched it several times. He started watching 90210 just to see Tristan Wilds.

My parents are watching season 1 now. They're watching 1 episode every couple of weeks. I dodn't know how they can do that. Once I started watching, I couldn't stop. I was up until 3 or 4 AM several times watching it.

FYI- Wallace, Michael, Bubbles, & Cheese are all filming a movie about the Tuskegee Airmen.
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[identity profile] musesfool.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I really liked Uriel, and not just because of my residual love for Major Bunny Colvin. I wanted him to stick around and be abrasive and menacing and yet good. Sigh.

Bubbles was in an episode of Sarah Connor Chronicles last season. I might have squeed. *cough*

[identity profile] liz-marcs.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel bad about T:TSCC. I wrote it off because I've never been a big Terminator fan, then I started having things to do on Friday nights. Now I have the overwhelming urge to watch it now that canon's closed (figures).

Now I really have to watch it because: Andre Royo. &hearts

Okay, my love of Bubbles and Andre Royo isn't quite enough to get me to watch Heroes, but...definitely yet another ticky box to getting T:TSCC from Netflix.

[identity profile] 1-mad-squirrel.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Damn that's brilliant. I've heard the name "The Wire" but I had no idea what it was about. Set in Baltimore, I take it, like one of my other favorite shows, 'Homicide: Life on the Streets' (which I only came to be a fan of in the last few years in reruns on WGN on weekday mornings) I'll have to check out 'The Wire'

[identity profile] liz-marcs.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
The Wire is intimately connected to Homicide.

The Wire comes from Ed Burns and David Simon.

David Simon wrote the original book Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets, upon which the Homicide series was based. (He was a Baltimore Sun police reporter who followed the Homicide Unit around for a year.) Ed Burns was one of the homicide cops he followed.

Then, David Simon took a buyout from the Baltimore Sun (it was that or be laid off) and joined the writing staff of Homicide in Season 3 (I think?).

The Wire was shown on HBO, so it's a lot more intense than Homicide. The best way to think of it is that The Wire are five true-crime novels (there were 5 seasons of The Wire) that basically explore different facets of Baltimore, specifically how it's failing as a city in large part because of the drug trade.

I flipping love The Wire.
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[personal profile] innerbrat 2009-05-21 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
You really want to watch an actor you love play a black character in a show that has race issues so bad you couldn't watch it?

I love SPN, but Uriel is not free of the issues that make me bury my head in my hands and say "WHY, SPN, WHY?"

[identity profile] liz-marcs.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait.

How bad is it? Do I really want to know what happens to Uriel because...angel right?

I pretty much don't read any posts about Supernatural because I don't care, so maybe I missed something.

[identity profile] spiralleds.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 06:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'd have to second that the ::headdesk:: of race (and gender) issues does not take a holiday during Season 4.
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[personal profile] innerbrat 2009-05-22 08:45 am (UTC)(link)
Do you mind being spoiled for the character's story-arc? Basically the usual rule-of-SPN in terms of black characters stay true.

[identity profile] jgracio.livejournal.com 2009-05-22 09:22 am (UTC)(link)
Know who else was an angel?

Lucifer. :)


So, how bad was it? Not terrible IMO, but not too different from the previous treatment of black characters.

[identity profile] janedavitt.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
If you check my tags, it might save you Netflixing and get you what you want quicker :-)

[identity profile] rin-x-x.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
What icky race/gender issues? I feel like I'm missing something (and I'm not sure whether I should be freaking out on whether or not I notice the race/gender issues). :\

[identity profile] omegar.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Roughly.

The black characters (when They have them) usually turn out to be bad guys! Or die.

The Female Characthers (When They have tehem) usually turn out to be bad girls! or die horribly and demonstrate how terrible it is and that they need big strong men to protect them.

Roughly. There is more than that, but well i love the show even with those weaknesses....

[identity profile] lizziebelle.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, I stopped watching it, too. :)

[identity profile] grey-bard.livejournal.com 2009-05-22 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Um. Um....

This season is kind of better about the race and gender issues, kind of, for the most part, than last year?

Except for Uriel.

Yeaaaaaaaaah.

I'm thinking you don't want to be seeing this. Or, alternately, not the last ep he appears in.

[identity profile] grey-bard.livejournal.com 2009-05-22 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Not that his performance isn't awesome, but still.

[identity profile] kurukami.livejournal.com 2009-05-26 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Sadly, S4 has just as many of the gender and race issues as the earlier seasons. It's decently written, yes, but... yeah. Still there.

I found myself wishing, partway through the season (you'll know when) that Robert Wisdom was playing Castiel and the guy they got to play Rorschach was playing Uriel. Because Robert Wisdom is SO MUCH BETTER than the actor they've got as Castiel.

[identity profile] cdog21.livejournal.com 2009-06-03 11:13 am (UTC)(link)
If it will make you feel better, he turns out to be a traitor.