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liz_marcs ([personal profile] liz_marcs) wrote2009-05-20 10:57 am

Damn it! Missed Glee. On the upside, I unexpectedly caught Evil!Xander...

Damn it! Damn it! Damn it!

For some bizarre reason I thought Glee was on tonight, not last night.

Thank heavens FOX is streaming the pilot episode via its Web site, so, I'll still be watching it on Wednesday night, just a day after everyone else.

Despite my loss of Glee, I was taken utterly by surprise by Nicholas Brendon popping up on my teevee last night (clearly I need to check his Web site more often...)

See, waaaaaay back in the mists of time I watched Without a Trace. I know I watched all of first season pretty religiously and probably up until mid-way second season. Then, other things came along and for one reason or another I stopped watching it.

My parents remained fans of WaT, mostly because they like Anthony LaPaglia rather than the show itself. (I understand that it had gotten somewhat soapy in its old age.)

As for me, I watch WaT like I watch Cold Case and CSI (Original Vegas Formula): If I'm bored and flipping through channels and I stumble across it on teevee, I'll pause and watch. It whatever is on the screen interests me, I'll watch, if not, I'll move on.

Anyway, since the announcement that WaT had been canceled came through yesterday, and last night was the season (now series) finale, I figure, "Eh. I'll watch it for old times' sake. See the old girl out."

I was a bit annoyed by the amount of time that was being spent on the investigators' personal drama (as opposed to the work-related drama), a clear sign that soapy-ness really had taken over. And I was a bit stunned to see bits of the episode were being told from the missing person's point of view (when the hell did that happen?). I mean, really? I thought the whole point of the show was that the missing person wasn't there and didn't appear unless someone was giving a statement to the FBI.

*roll eyes* Definitely not cool.

But the real shocker? Watching Nicholas Brendon stroll into a scene near the beginning (clearly, I had not been paying attention to the opening credits). Before the words, "What the hell?" were done leaving my mouth, the words, "Hey! He's playing the episode baddie! Hooray!"

And he actually did a decent job playing the episode baddie. This shouldn't surprise me, because creepy is actually something this actor seems to do well, but very rarely seems to be given the opportunity to play. There was a certain amount of creepy, but not a whole lot of menace — until the end when his character tried to off the "missing person" by drowning them. On the whole, none of his usual ticks and not one lunge toward the funny.

Right, so I stuck my nose into NB's IMDB page.

Oh, deah. A Lifetime movie? Odds are he'll be playing the creepy stalker guy. Which...

Actually might be a good career move if his WaT performance is anything to go by.

Anyway, for those of you who saw Glee last night...tell me...was it good? Or am I gonna be sorry I watched?

[identity profile] huzzlewhat.livejournal.com 2009-05-20 03:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, wow. I had no idea — I also gave up on WAT a few years back, but I would have tuned in for this. And I'm feeling a bit smug, because whenever the issue of good/bad post-Buffy career moves comes up, I'm usually eager to climb up on my soapbox about how Nicholas Brendon should back off the comedy and show up as some utterly twisted serial killer on Law & Order, because he'd be really good at it, and it would be the kind of career reinvention that so many prior TV actors have taken such good advantage of. So... wrong show, but hey! I feel smug!

[identity profile] liz-marcs.livejournal.com 2009-05-20 03:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. He should seriously play a string of psycho killers for awhile and back away from the comedy.

Seriously, this guest star appearance didn't seem to be listed anywhere on the regular Buffy-related boards I still visit — so not a shocker that people who would've tuned in to check the episode out completely didn't know.

I call it, "Nicholas Brendon Syndrome: The Cast Member No One Talks About and Everyone Forgets Exists." Case in point? Slayerverse. They don't even have his bio up on the site, let alone any casting news for him.

*sigh*

In any case, I was pleasantly surprised to see him on WaT and playing a different kind of role than his usual. Of course, the episode highlighted why WaT deserved to be canceled: The guest cast (and I mean all of the guest cast) acted rings around the regulars. They all turned in excellent performances, while the regulars basically phoned it in.

*facepalm*

Seriously, I would've watched an entire season of episodes around the "missing person" subplot (and believe it or not, it really was the subplot) because it had some interesting and not-at-all fully explored twists in it and the guest cast were all really that good.

[identity profile] huzzlewhat.livejournal.com 2009-05-20 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. He should seriously play a string of psycho killers for awhile and back away from the comedy.

The thing about Buffy was that it demanded so much range from its regular cast members — they had to go from drama to comedy and back again on the turn of a dime with intermittent episodes of demonic possession by evil forces — that we got spoiled by their capabilities and expected great things from them. :-) And in the post-Buffy world, practically none of the cast members have landed roles that show off their range. Evil!Xander was only one flavor of Xander that added spice and depth to the whole, and yet to the casting directors and Hollywood at large, he was slotted into the "comic relief/sidekick" mold, to the point that I think even NB forgot that he could do more. So it's reassuring (?) to see him tackling more twisted roles.

I call it, "Nicholas Brendon Syndrome: The Cast Member No One Talks About and Everyone Forgets Exists." Case in point? Slayerverse. They don't even have his bio up on the site, let alone any casting news for him.

In the spirit of your icon, I'll reply with one of my own (that also conveys my opinion of that)...

The guest cast (and I mean all of the guest cast) acted rings around the regulars. They all turned in excellent performances, while the regulars basically phoned it in.

I shall have to look for it on rerun, DVR it, and fast-forward through the regular cast bits. Is Eric Close still on that show? Cause I have love for Eric Close that goes back to "Once and Again."

[identity profile] liz-marcs.livejournal.com 2009-05-20 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
My icon is being used in support of yours. :-)

Yeah. Eric Close is on the show — but he's barely in the episode. I think he takes down NB's character at the end of the ep and saves the "missing person" from his watery grace. Other than that, he's got less than 5 lines in the whole thing.

Eric Close is another one of those actors that I like. He's another actor that, for some reason, keeps getting shunted to the side on any show he's on. On the rare occasion I catch WaT on some off-channel during an odd-hour, EC seems to be consistently in the background. It makes no sense. I was under the impression that after ALP, EC was the "biggest star" in the cast when WaT first started.

[identity profile] huzzlewhat.livejournal.com 2009-05-20 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I see your Gunn and raise you Batman.

[identity profile] liz-marcs.livejournal.com 2009-05-20 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously.

My own private joke is that NB could win an Emmy, Oscar, and a Tony all in the same year and Slayverse might post a blurb upon his winning the third and final award and that it might generate 3 comments, one of which will say that NB is looking kinda old, the second of which will say that NB is looking kinda fat, and the third authoritatively stating that NB's career has sure been in the crapper since the end of Buffy.

Okay, the odds of NB winning even 1 let alone all 3 awards is pretty long, but I think it illustrates the personna non grata status of NB over on Slayerverse pretty well.

[identity profile] madripoor-rose.livejournal.com 2009-05-20 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't watched Without A Trace in years...it was pretty good the first season, but fell into formula, into inter-agent soap opera, and finally jumped the shark for me with the episode that entirely took place in LaPaglia's head. I'll have to keep an eye on reruns for the Nick Brendon ep.

There seems to be a lot of squeeing over Glee, though I didn't watch it. I think I've officially given up on new shows, I'm tired of stuff getting cancelled out from under me and I have an entire library system of dvds to watch.

[identity profile] liz-marcs.livejournal.com 2009-05-20 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't watched WaT in years either...just the first season and part of the second season. I can count the number of episodes on my fingers and still have one or two left over other than that.

The name of the ep last night was "Undertow," but God knows if they'll re-run it. The overall soap-opera quality of the episode came close to overwhelming the missing person subplot and I suspect that the show is going to sink without a trace (heh!) to off-brand cable channels that few people know exist.

I mean, seriously, the missing person case was the subplot. I thought that was the whole reason for WaT to exist! And the real kicker is that the entire guest cast acted rings around the regulars, who seemed to be phoning it in. It was disappointing, really.

[identity profile] bastardsnow.livejournal.com 2009-05-20 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought Glee was fantastic. And I'm hopeful, because Fox seems really excited by it, too, in that they premiered it after Idol last night, even though it doesn't actually *start* until next fall. But I thought it was really good, the songs were well done, and most of the characters seem like they have some real potential for depth.

I'll have to check out Without a Trace on the intarwebs tonight -- did not know he was supposed to be on it. I do know he has a semi-recurring role on Criminal Minds, but I don't watch that either. I've kind of been spoiled for cop shows since The Wire. It's partly why I only quarter-heartedly watch Southland (the other part being that it's... not really all that good).

[identity profile] liz-marcs.livejournal.com 2009-05-20 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
The name of the episode is "Undertow." And as I was saying above, there's something seriously, seriously wrong when the missing person story is the subplot. At least in this instance.

The guest cast did an excellent job, though (all of them) and pretty much acted rings around the regular cast (who seemed to be phoning it in). The episode is worth checking out if you want to see NB doing a decent job in a different kind of role, and the missing person (subplot! I ask you!) story is interesting enough.

Try not to roll your eyes with the personal life drama-llama that keeps interfering.

And thanks for the tip on Southland. I can't tell you how many people have said, "Well if you're a Wire snob, you'll probably love Southland." But I don't know. Everything that I heard about it tells me that Southland wants to be The Wire when it grows up, but totally lacks the balls to do it. In short, it ain't no Homicide: Life on the Streets, let alone The Wire, so I've been avoiding it.

[identity profile] bastardsnow.livejournal.com 2009-05-20 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I think part of the problem is that the writers don't really know where they're going, or at least seem like that. I mean, it's okay, and it's probably better than most other serious!drama cop shows (I don't count Bones. It's a character dramedy that happens to have a cop and some forensic people). And Southland can be really good at times, but it just never quite gets there.

The most interesting stuff, to me anyway, has been the two patrolmen and their portion of the show has decreased significantly in recent weeks, even though they were largely the focus of the pilot. As for the other characters, I mostly don't give a shit. I didn't catch Southland last week, and I have no idea if I will this week, but I don't imagine I'll be upset if I miss it.

Also: Was never really a fan of WaT, but the B story being the kidnapping is another reason I won't miss it when it's gone next year. Unlike The Unusuals, which was quirky and odd enough to keep my interest.

[identity profile] evaine.livejournal.com 2009-05-20 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually DVRed "Glee" last night and watched it later on last night. *LOL* It was enjoyable, for the most part, I thought. Some clever moments, some clever dialogue, some real clunkers and cringers too, if I'm honest. The singing was fun. I'll be watching again.

As for "Southland", I watched the first couple of episodes and then found myself not caring that I forgot to set up the DVR for it. And I do like the kid that's in it. *shrug* Not my cuppa, I guess. I'm more of a "Criminal Minds" type of gal. I LOVED "Life", but the idiots that run the networks cancelled it because of freakin' Jay Leno's tired face. ICK!!

[identity profile] bastardsnow.livejournal.com 2009-05-20 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Word up on the Life love. But it ended okay, I thought.

[identity profile] evaine.livejournal.com 2009-05-20 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it could have ended a lot worse, with all kinds of things left up in the air. I just loved the originality of the characters - well, okay, I was lusting after Damien too... but... you know. *LOL*

[identity profile] jedishadowolf.livejournal.com 2009-05-20 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Just watched Glee this morning and was pleasantly surprised. Totally loved it, though I can see where the clunkers and cringe-worthy moments were. Really hope it gets a good showing in the ratings.

[identity profile] aaalex55.livejournal.com 2009-05-20 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup, I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I'm looking forward to a Lifetime movie. You know your loyalty knows no bounds when your willing to take on Lifetime movies. Its nice to see Nick playing a different range than from what we're use to. I'm loving seeing him tap into his creepy side. Its about damn time we get to delve into it.

If anyone missed last night's ep, you can see clips of Nick's parts at the cbs site. You have to sit through annoying commercials, but its good for those like me who were only tuning in to see the Nick parts in the first place.

http://www.cbs.com/video/?showname=primetime/without_a_trace#video

If you really want to see Nick in a.... different (yeah, I'll go with different) role, you should check out his possible new web series "The Quincy Rose Show" Have you seen that one yet? Its.... um... different. lol A little shocking and twisted, but definitely not Xander-ish.

http://vimeo.com/3747929

Vimeo's player drives my computer nuts, but its got the best description of the show.

[identity profile] lmzjewel.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 02:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey Lexie,(:

Yeah! Different is definately they key phrase there. LOL
He was good in "Without a Trace" The other night and I'm looking forward to the Lifetime movie too. And I really don't tend to watch Lifetime movies either.

[identity profile] animeagan.livejournal.com 2009-05-20 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)

Glee was amazing. It was full of cheese and funny jokes, and it was awesome and everything I wanted it to be.

It was basically High School Musical, but without the hugely intense amount of suck and awful. <3 Yay!

[identity profile] 4thdixiechick.livejournal.com 2009-05-20 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I stopped watching WaT after the first 3 eps of season 1 - the soap was already taking over then. I would've watched it had I known that NB was in it!

Haven't seen Glee yet, either, but I have to catch up with grading before I catch up on TV!
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[identity profile] entrenous88.livejournal.com 2009-05-20 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Glee = very promising. Lots of fun moments, tons of potential, and the couple of problems I saw could work for them if they treat them like problems instead of going "la-la-la-la-la ignore these parts!"
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[identity profile] korilian.livejournal.com 2009-05-20 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Glee was fabulous! HSM only funnier and with better talent. And now excuse me while I hunt down Without a trace.
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[identity profile] korilian.livejournal.com 2009-05-20 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay found it! Holy crap! Nick grew up and turned into Bruce Campbell! Even his voice sounds deeper! In Buffy S7 he looked so washed out and crappy, but he's rocking those man shoulders now.

[identity profile] fangirlsays.livejournal.com 2009-05-20 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
In case no one has mentioned it yet, Glee is available for free on iTunes here. :D

[identity profile] skipp-of-ark.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
I remember reading once that one of the reasons Joss initially wanted to kill off Xander in Season Seven and have The First assume his form for the final five episodes was because he thought Nicholas Brendon could play "creepy" really well.

[identity profile] lmzjewel.livejournal.com 2009-05-21 02:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Nick was really good the other night wasn't he. I really enjoyed seeing him in a role like that. Ya know, something different and darker. It seems to me that he could do quite alot of roles. I think he could definately do a leading romantic type or a serious drama. And, he's extremely good as a psycho. (: