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liz_marcs ([personal profile] liz_marcs) wrote2009-01-12 03:20 pm

I Continue to Learn About Myself Everyday...

People who dismiss shit out of hand just because.

No reason. It's "just because."

Now, I'm not including television or movies or books in this. Why? Because that's penny-ante, and sometimes a concept just hits your ick or bores you to tears. (Looking at you Dollhouse, which amazingly enough has managed to do both.)

I'm talking about, "Hey, I have a solution to this problem that's been bugging you for awhile. If we do it like this and this, and use this and this product, the probablem might well be resolved. And, oh yeah, I know someone else who used this process and/or product and they said it worked great. If you have any questions, here's where you can reach them."

Cue the other person doing the grown-up equivalent of a 3-year-old's, "NO! I DON'T WANNA!"

"Before you say no, maybe you should ask the person I suggested since they have actually—"

"NO! NO! NO! NO! I SAID NO I DON'T WANNA! I'D RATHER BITCH ABOUT THIS PROBLEM THAN SEE IF THIS SOLUTION WILL ACTUALLY WORK! WAAAAAH!"

This has already happened to me several times today.

*grinds teeth*

In the future, I vow to be less helpful to my fellow man.

Believe it or not, this is not a work rant.

[identity profile] married-n-mich.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
And you're surprised? That's my job everyday!

[identity profile] married-n-mich.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
And as I hit 'post comment' I read the very last line of your post - which I missed somehow.

That makes it twice as bad!

[identity profile] liz-marcs.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahahahahaha!

Have I mentioned that it's Mercury retrograde?

I don't normally believe in astrology, but I can always tell when Mercury goes retrograde. Always.

[identity profile] married-n-mich.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, that could explain a lot.

[identity profile] leenah.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 08:37 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, it's one of the reasons why i'm not always a helpful person.

and yes, dollhouse doesn't sound right to me. and since i don't have tv reception, that's just as well.

[identity profile] liz-marcs.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Really, not only does the concept ick me out, but I'm very, very sure I read the exact same concept in a SciFi short story dating from either the 60s or 70s — except the short story had far less T&A appeal.

What doubly doesn't help is that it seems like JW is already making excuses for the show failing and it isn't even on the air, yet. Add this in with the very mixed reviews Dollhouse is already getting and...yeah.

Still, I don't much care what people read or watch because, like I said, there's plenty of room for disagreement on what constitutes quality entertainment.

But when it comes to offering up solutions to actual long-standing problems getting fluffed off for no discernible reason? Yeah, that annoys me.

[identity profile] daniidebrabant.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
...you have just met my biggest pet peeve (and the reason I am not with at least three girlfriends anymore).

Good luck with them. I am SO sorry.

ETA: I talked to someone this weekend and tried to do something similar, and got about the same result. So *just remembered cause she's a dork* definitely feeling ya.

[identity profile] liz-marcs.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
*sadly nods head*

Yeah. I'm no longer friends with one person because of it. What didn't help was that after she would refuse to take my advice, I'd further enable her by helping her out of the jam she'd get in because she didn't take my advice.

Then she dig herself even deeper into the hole.

The last time she did this to me, it cost me $275 that I honestly couldn't afford to lend out at the time. I never saw a dime of it back, even though I was willing to take it in $10 monthly installments.

[identity profile] bastardsnow.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I know this isn't about your job, but seriously, this is my job. So freaking frustrating. I have finally decided that if they want to do stupid things here, despite the fact that there are clearly and obviously better ways, well... that's really their problem.

[identity profile] liz-marcs.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I have yet to learn this trick.

This is why you rule. *nods*

[identity profile] bastardsnow.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
This, and so many other things. ;-)
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Random

[identity profile] elionwyr.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
*icon love*
May I steal?

Re: Random

[identity profile] liz-marcs.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, it's shareable.

Just credit the creator (You can find it on my Icon page).
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[identity profile] elionwyr.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! Will do.

[identity profile] sunnyd-lite.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
But if you get it to work, what would we complain about? *wide anime eyes* *snerk*

[identity profile] saoba.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a game called 'Ya-Butt' and I no longer play more than three rounds of it.

Person A: Woe! Problem! Grumble, gripe, moan.

me: Have you tried *first option*?

PA: Yabutt, that won't help because *flimsy reason*

me: What about *next suggestion*?

PA: Yabutt, that's too harrrrrd/costs too much/takes too long/hurts my ickle fee-fees.

me: All right. Someone I know had good luck with *another idea altogether*.

PA: Yabutt *blah blah blah which I have stopped listening to*

me: (to self if trying to be polite, out loud if I don't care if they get cranky) Oh, sorry. I thought you wanted ideas on what to do about this issue. You were venting. I'll stop now. Please, carry on.

[identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a sibling who does this all the time. And an ex-friend who not only did it, but would be all thrilled a few days later when she heard the same idea from someone else.

It's a 'pity me' game, and has the additional bonus of being able to diss any friend willing to play ('your ideas just aren't helpful.') Not worth the effort.

Worse at work, actually - because the idea is that everyone is supposedly on the job to make things work.

[identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
You're naming one of the top reasons why I'm looking for a new job. Sometimes, I'm amazed that companies make products, much less sell them.

[identity profile] imaginarycircus.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
My husband and I used to have arguments like that. I would say I had X problem and he would say, "OK, here is what you do..." And I would get irritated. And then we learned that sometimes I just wanted to tell him something or vent and was not asking for a solution. I've learned to explain I just want him to listen to me and that if I get stuck figuring out a solution on my own and need help I will ask for help then. Maybe people don't realize they just need someone (you) to listen, but aren't asking for help. It can be tricky and of course some people like to whine and have zero interest in changing or making progress and that can be annoying.

[identity profile] missmurchison.livejournal.com 2009-01-12 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I worked with a whole group of people like that once. At least, their group was supposed to work with my group because we used the same proprietary software. Every time a bug turned up, we'd work with the developers to figure out a short-term fix while a better solution was put into place, and they would all wail, "But we hate work-arounds!" So they'd spend hours longer getting something done or not get tasks done at all on principle.

[identity profile] a2zmom.livejournal.com 2009-01-13 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
I can sort of understand that attitude. Because in most firms, the long term fix never, ever gets put into place until 10 years later when it is now a two year project.

I live with that that kind of crap every day (my favorite - the dreaded "bridgeback")

[identity profile] missmurchison.livejournal.com 2009-01-13 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
If these had been significant problems or if we didn't have regular new releases of the program scheduled, I'd agree with you.

This happened even when they weren't really problems. Sometimes they just refused to understand they were doing things the hard way because that was the way they'd always done it. Or they wanted the software to do something it hadn't been designed to do and wouldn't take a COTS product as a reasonable alternative. (Yes, a COTS product performing its designed function was defined by them as a "work-around.")

[identity profile] a2zmom.livejournal.com 2009-01-13 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, people be stupid.

We have (fortunately) trained my users to have projects done the right way even though it adds time. That means we almost never hard code. You want some new weird rule for some customer. Guess what, it's getting added to the online front end as a option. Because six months down the road, some other crazy customer is going to want the same thing.

[identity profile] a2zmom.livejournal.com 2009-01-13 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Many people refuse to change anything even if it will save them money, time, their lives.

People be stupid.

[identity profile] doingsoso.livejournal.com 2009-01-17 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
well I hate to say it, but people really want to bitch. I've run across the same problem. So I just don't make suggestions to those people anymore, and limit my contact, heh.