Does this make me a Bad Fan?

[liz_marcs]

Confession #1:

I'm approximately 1 gazillion times more excited about Mama Mia! opening today than I am about The Dark Knight, despite the fact that I can see The Dark Knight at no less than 2 IMAX theaters within easy driving distance.



Confession #2:

It appears that I will buy anything David Simon does because, as it turns out, he's my favorite author (for television) ever. I own the book Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets, all 7 seasons plus television movie of Homicide: Life on the Street, the book The Corner: A Year in the Life of an Inner-City Neighborhood, the HBO series The Corner, and the first 4 seasons of The Wire (with Season 5 on order for immediate shipping when it's available next month).

I am counting down to when Generation Kill will be available on DVD (I don't get HBO) so I can get my hands on it.

In short, you know how people will buy anything Joss Whedon does (even when it's total crap) and call him a genius for it (even though it's a case of the emperor walking around completely starkers)?

This is apparently how I treat productions involving David Simon, Ed Burns, and partners.

How can I put this...long before I let any of David Simon's stuff out of my hands, I will sell both my Angel and Buffy box sets.

The hell with that. I will burn my Angel and Buffy box sets before I give up any of David Simon's stuff.

(Seriously, those of you who kept looking for meaning in the "numbered shirts" of Buffy Season 6 that actually didn't have any meaning beyond, "We found a bunch of these for cheap in thrift shops?" Try The Wire, which actually has twice the meaning and twice the mythic elements of any Angel and Buffy episode without requiring you to fanwank. Best of all? The Wire actually has continuity that puts most book series to shame. No. I'm not kidding.)

Comments

[liz-marcs.livejournal.com]

*cackles*

One can only hope that someone will film the Comic Con battle of the Browncoats vs. The Toy Soliders. (My bet's on Dr. Steel and his minions...what say you?)

And I agree...while it's possible that the JW came up with the idea independently (because evil scientist masterminds are not exactly a new idea), the art work reaaaaaalllllyyyyyy makes me wonder.

And I can't blame "Dr. Steel" and his "Toy Soldiers" for being just a mite pissed over the fact that someone is going to be accusing them of "copying" Whedon when they've been around for far longer.

[kaydee23.livejournal.com]

This make me want to go to Comicon for all the drama! I hope there'll be a battle, and my money's on Dr. Steel's Toy Soldiers, all the way.

Evil science masterminds are not new, but come on, those two blue posters are almost identical.

The Whedonesque posters quickly went to "Dr. Steel is just trying to get free publicity from Joss Whedon's work."

Of course, the music's not the same, but the art work, and the "Ask Dr. Horrible" is amazingly similar to the "Ask Dr. Steel" portion of his blog.

Do you think they'll ever 'fess up? Will they at least point to it and say they liked it so well they decided to do something similar to it?

Nah. They'll just ignore it and count on the Whedonites to try to drown them out.

[liz-marcs.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I've kind of noticed that disturbing trend among the hard-core Whedonites of late. If things don't pan out for Joss, the Whedonites seem to be called into action to "do something" on a regular basis.

Whedon loses the contract to write the script for Wonder Woman? Write post cards of complaint.

Firefly movie flops (and it did flop)? Try to pressure the studio into making a sequel and then buy multiple copies of "Serenity" to pass around to all your loved ones.

Whedon starting a new television series? Start the "Save Dollhouse" petition drive before the first script is written.



Look, I'm all for supporting an artist who's work you enjoy, but frankly the people at Whedonesque and their cult-like following of Joss scare the shit out of me.

[kaydee23.livejournal.com]

Joss is not happy about that "Save Dollhouse" drive. He said he thinks it puts them in the *cheap seats.*

I too am a bit disturbed by the cult-of-Joss. Oh, and there are plenty of people on my flist who would gladly cut me if they saw this conversation.

Of course I mean, defriend, not cut. Although, some of them might actually cut me. With something sharp and shiny.

[liz-marcs.livejournal.com]

Well, I'm glad that Joss is disturbed by the "Save Dollhouse" drive, because that made me do a double-take.

I'd like to think most people on my FList would agree to disagree with this conversation, I know I'm living in a fool's paradise.

I mean, I've nearly come to blows with more than one Browncoat because they didn't like the thought that someone in their immediate vicinity didn't think that Firefly was the best science fiction show evah! And that was before Serenity was dying a slow death at the box office.

I do believe you're sooo, sooo right about the shiny cuts. *giggle*

[skipp-of-ark.livejournal.com]

Hee. Remember when Nicky Brendon did that interview with Will-from-Alias for Kitchen Confidential and admitted that Joss Whedon told him sometime around Season 4 or 5 of Buffy that "Xander was done," there was "no more" to tell about him? And the hardcore Whedonites bent over backwards trying to convince themselves that what NB actually meant was the exact opposite of what he actually said, because what NB actually said might have cast a less-than-positive light on Joss.

Now, I admit I've been reading the Season Eight comics (and the Angel: After the Fall comics from that other company even though I still won't buy or read any of their Spike stuff), in part because Whedon finally seems to be giving Xander a plotline again (well, for Whedon, heaping tragedy and misery onto a character is the same thing as giving them a plotline), even though I'm not sure where he's going with it. But while I will admit Nick Brendon's not the absolute greatest actor in the world, I'm still a little suspicious of the fact that it took doing it in comic-book form -- y'know, without those pesky actors getting in the way -- for Joss to do it. (Given Joss's statements about how, if he had to, he'd ignore the comics as "canon" to make a Buffy live-action project, I suspect that the first step he would take would be to politely disinvite Nick Brendon and possibly Michelle Trachtenburg from participating, or at least limit them to cameos.)

[liz-marcs.livejournal.com]

I actually don't think the live action project will ever happen, or if it does, it'll be a re-imagining some 20 to 30 years down the road with a completely different cast. A lot of it is because most of the cast isn't nearly as interested as fans think they are, if you go by the throw-away comments they've made over the years.

As for the Xander storyline in the comics, I'm not convinced that it's so much an actor being replaced by a paper doll that's at issue as it is the lack of network interference (remember UPN practically ordered Joss to use "Spike" more in Season 7 -- remember the memo that got touted all over hell and creation when it was leaked?) as well as a changed situation opening up possibilities.

*shrug*

It's impossible to speculate since we don't actually know, well, anything. I'd put the re-appearance of anything of a live-action very, very low.