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liz_marcs ([personal profile] liz_marcs) wrote2008-05-24 08:37 pm

Fictional Women Who Rock My World: Lovable Scoundrels and Witches (Part 4/4)

Continued from Fictional Queens Who Rock My World, Fictional Soldiers Who Rock My World, and Fictional Working Women Who Rock My World.

This one is for the Fictional Women who make their own rules.


Lovable Scoundrels

Chiana from Farscape



There were a couple of people who were a little bit non-plussed that I left Aeryn Sun of my list of "Fictional Soldiers Who Rock My World," but here's why I left her off: Chiana.

Don't get me wrong, I like Aeryn just fine, but I preferred Chiana as a character by leaps and bounds. Over her four seasons on Farscape, Chiana's evolution was a wonder to behold as she progressed from an amoral thief always looking out for number one, to an indispensable member of Moya's crew fighting tooth and nail for the people she cares about.

What makes Chiana particularly fascinating is that she rebelled against her own societal norms (a veneration of control, order, and conformity that is best expressed by the repressive Nebari government) and was willing to flee her home with her brother and live by her own wits rather than simply submit.

In short: Chiana the tough customer is a hell of a lot more of a tough customer than anyone gives her credit for. And I totally love that in a kick-ass woman.

Sure, Chiana has a nasty habit of shooting herself in her own foot on a regular basis, but the point is that Chiana always picks herself up, dusts herself off, and keeps moving forward.


Chiana, highlighting that she's an expert at more than a few mad skillz:

Chiana: Don't tell me how to lie! It's one of the things I do best!"




Amélie Poulain from Amélie



Yes, I know the movie Amélie (U.S. title) is a total fairytale and that Amélie herself is a thinly disguised Cinderella figure.

But...and this is the important point: She's a Cinderella who actively takes a direct hand in changing her fate from a life of isolation and loneliness to one where she actively engages with the people around her in a positive way.

How does she do it?

Not by changing her looks (as too many movies in this genre require the leading lady to do). Not by changing her personality (Amélie remains the same basic person throughout the movie). No, she does it by deciding that it is time for her to change her own life. Yes, she vows to do it by secretly helping others, but she goes about it in such a tricksterish way that you can't help but think that the little con artist within has been screaming for years to be set free.

Watching Amélie evolve from a woman who settles for the simple pleasure of running her hand through a sack of grain, to one who's willing to chase down the identity of "the photo booth man" all over Paris in an effort to puzzle out his story and steal her father's gnome and send it on a photopictoral trip around the world is a feel-good delight that simply makes me happy.

And that fact that Amélie remains Amélie throughout even as she takes her life in her own hands and decides to change the way she approaches the world is more than just a bonus; it's the entire point. It really doesn't get much better than that.


Favorite Amélie quote (hey, it made me laugh):

Amélie: At least you'll never be a vegetable. Even artichokes have hearts.




Trixie Belden, teen sleuth from the Trixie Belden Mystery Series



Before there was a Veronica Mars and a Laura Holt, there was Trixie Belden, the teen-sleuth extraordinaire who ruled my little-girl daydreams. While other girls my age were devouring Nancy Drew books, I was devouring tales about Trixie Belden and her Bob-Whites.

[Funny now that I think about it: Trixie Belden and her Bob-Whites have more than a passing resemblance to high-school era Buffy Summers and her Scoobies...hmmmmmmmmm....]

Trixie Belden sprung to life in 1949, yet despite the fact that almost 60 years have come and gone from her debut, Trixie as a character would be right at home here in the 21st century. A tomboy with a keen instinct for solving mysteries, a sense self-reliance, a hot temper, is a sometimes ambivalent student, and has long-range plans to open her own detective agency with best friend Honey Wheeler, Trixie looks and sounds like the teen girl you already know.

Plus, her ability to trip over trouble is simply astounding. (Seriously, man, was Sleepyside-on-the-Hudson on top of a Hellmouth or something? You really gotta wonder in this fictional day in age.)

Although the series was out of print for awhile, Random House has done the world (and generations of girls who just can't dig Nancy Drew) a favor and is re-releasing all 39 novels (the series ended in 1986). Get one for your favorite mystery-loving girl right away!


Since I don't have any Trixie Belden books on-hand, here's a quote about Trixie Belden:

"Re-reading, you realize how advanced she is," said [Random House editor] Jennifer Dussling [who is responsible for bringing the Belden series back into print]. "Her brothers tell her, 'Oh, Trixie, you have to do the curtains for the clubhouse while we shingle the roof.' And she'd say that wasn't right. She really told her brothers what to do."






Witches

Elphaba and Glinda from Wicked



I'm talking about the play version of Wicked, as opposed to the book version in this case. Although, confession time here: I was pissed that the play changed the ending from the book. In fact, my brother and I said, "This sucks!" in unison when we saw the tacked-on happy ending the play saw fit to include.

That said, I adored the friendship between the dissimilar Elphaba and Glinda. Glinda, who taught Elphaba to be a little bit more social, and Elphaba, who taught Glinda to think for herself just a little bit more.

But, do you want to know what I really dig?

Their semi-falling out had nothing to do with a man (as faaaaaar too many falling outs between fictional women do). Instead, it's all because they have fundamentally different approaches to life. Elphaba in good conscience could not go along to get along, which led to Glinda accusing Elphaba that she enjoyed being the outsider too much. Glinda believed that the only way to change the system was to play the game, which led to Elphaba accusing Glinda of loving power and popularity too much.

The hell of it is this: They are both right, and they're both being fair.

I know many people love one over the other. As for me, I simply can't choose. I love them both equally, for their strengths and their faults.

From my favorite duet between Elphaba and Glinda in the play, "For Good:"

Like a comet pulled from orbit//As it passes a sun//Like a stream that meets a boulder//Halfway through the wood//Who can say if I've been changed for the better?//But because I knew you//I have been changed for good...




Granny Weatherwax and Nanny Ogg


Granny is one of those cranky old crones with a healthy dose of pessimism, because she knows people. Nanny is one of those ribald old ladies with a healthy dose of optimism, because she also knows people.

Heeee! Okay, so the Witches of Lancre have a serious disconnect between their points of view, and they are fundamentally different in so many ways, yet together they are the dynamic duo, the steadying hand that keeps Lancre from falling into chaos or getting overrun by fairies or vampires, and making sure that wizards don't get too uppity when they drop by for a visit.

Ably aided by retired witch (now Queen of Lancre) Magrat and current "maiden" in the trio Agnes, Granny and Nanny adventure their way across the length and breadth of Discworld and still have time to take care of business at home, like making sure that a Fool went on to become the King of Lancre (and by all accounts, he's a Good King, even if he has some Modern Ideas).

Seriously, I'm not sure who terrifies me more: Granny with her expertise in "Headology," or Nanny, with her ability to manipulate even the most intractable person into doing the right thing.

So give it up for the Witchy Duo of Lancre, who always know when to cast a spell, and when not to cast a spell and let the pointy hat do the talking instead.

Favorite quotes:

I can't pick one. Just go read the books, okay?


And therein ends my list.

Next time someone says that there are no interesting fictional women, I am soooooo pointing them to this list.

I mean, I have 19 Rockin' Women listed right here, and the list is nowhere near complete.

[identity profile] shakatany.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
I've been loving your lists and agree with many of them like Susan Ivanova but what about Emma Peel (the Diana Rigg version)?

Shakatany

[identity profile] liz-marcs.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
I actually never watched The Avengers, so I'm not at all familiar with the character. I know by reputation she rocks, but I can't say first-hand.

*embarrassed grin*

I know the list is not at all comprehensive, and the 19 I've got was pared down quite a bit, mostly because I only had a passing familiarity or didn't know the characters well enough to do them justice.

Glad you enjoyed the list, tho!

[identity profile] shakatany.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Well if you have any free time (yes I know ha ha) take a look at a few eps. I always recall the ep where Emma and Steed had to join a Mensa-like organization and Emma passed the test brilliantly but had to help Steed cheat in order for him to get in and he wasn't a bit put out about that. She was so smart and capable and rescued Steed just as often as he rescued her - beautifully egalitarian relationship.

Shakatany
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[personal profile] anonymous_sibyl 2008-05-25 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
I want to be Granny Weatherwax when I grow up. And I also want to have all the recipes in Nanny Ogg's cookbook.

[identity profile] liz-marcs.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
I think we all want to be Granny when we grow up. She's, like, the perfect crone we should all aspire to.

[identity profile] j3nny3lf.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
No no NO!

I wanna be Nanny.

She gets laid!

[identity profile] miss-s-b.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 11:03 am (UTC)(link)
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[personal profile] ngaio 2008-05-25 08:17 am (UTC)(link)
They published the cookbook! I personally have eaten ... slumpy I think it was.

[identity profile] miss-s-b.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 11:03 am (UTC)(link)
I have the cookbook. The humbugs are good.

[identity profile] saoba.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
I LOVE Gytha and Esme.

I love the whole list, and may ponder doing one of my own, but Gytha and Esme rock my world.

[identity profile] liz-marcs.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
They just crack me up, the two of them. The Witches series is my favorite Discworld subgenre, although that could be because "Witches Abroad" was my "entry book" into the Discworld universe.

But they're definitely my favorite fictional witches.

And please, yet! Do a list! I'd love to see it!

[identity profile] rileysaplank.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 05:36 pm (UTC)(link)
For me it's the Death series, mainly because Mort was my entry book to the series.

[identity profile] dandieelyon.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
EEEp! Death from the Sandman series rocked my 13 yr old little world! When i found her oh so many years ago, I fell in love with her. She was righteous and strong and *funny* and wise wise wise.

[identity profile] j3nny3lf.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
These have been great. And kudos on remembering Granny and Nanny.

I've got a good Nanny quote for you:

"He's just a big softy, really." (Nanny, speaking of Greebo, her ferocious cat)

[identity profile] liz-marcs.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
Heeeee! Nanny's big old blindspot when it comes to Greebo is sooo endearing. And he suits her so well.

And remembering Granny and Nanny? How on earth can anyone forget them?

[identity profile] j3nny3lf.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
Some people are just foolish enough to not even KNOW them!

They need a serious dose of headology. And some Sewkrose and Akwa.

[identity profile] iyalode.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Your list is sending me down memory lane and I can't argue against your choices. And Trixie Belden! Tomboy young me devoured these books, I loved them.

[identity profile] sam-arkand.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
I'd add in Tiffany Aching, from the Wee Free Men series. She is *scarily* like a young Esme. Only with her innate good nature and deep love of her land unspoiled by age and a life tending the places between.

Plus, you know, frying pan wins!

[identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 08:44 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah... I do hope that at some point Terry has her meet Susan, they would get on scarily well together.

[identity profile] draconin.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
I have a serious love affair with Granny Weatherwax. Nanny Ogg too, to a lesser extent, but Granny W is such a complex character that you never tire of learning more of her. It's amazing to me that the Discworld series contains such an incredible range of memorable and original characters. I was so angry at the PTB when I heard about Pratchett's illness.

[identity profile] secondalto.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
OMG, Trixie Belden, that brings back memories. I devoured those books (and old school Nancy Drew, none of the new stuff) like crazy.

A big thumbs up to all four of these posts!

[identity profile] marenfic.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
I love Granny and Nanny! Those are my favorite of all the Pratchett characters by far.

[identity profile] madripoor-rose.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
Ooh, the Lancre witches! Definitely among my favorites of the Pratchett books, but he's written a lot of good women characters. More consistently than a lot of authors.

[identity profile] j3nny3lf.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
For example, Sybil Vimes.

She's amazing.

[identity profile] hlforever.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
What an interesting bunch. It makes me wonder how they'd interact with each other... I have to say, I was expecting Polgara in the witches list. Whenever I'm rereading the Belgariad, I spend a bunch of the first 2-3 books pissed at her, but she's still awesome.

I really have to check out discworld one of these days. I keep hearing good things. Trixie Belden was the only one I hadn't heard of, but I might have to check out those books for some light reading. Hmm, I see a trip to the library in my future.

Cheers.

[identity profile] midnightsjane.livejournal.com 2008-05-25 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
Chiana rocks!

OMG, Trixie Belden...I read all of those books when I was in grade 7 or 8. I haven't much memory of them, other than she was a teenaged detective who had great adventures..and I wanted to be her.
Maybe I should reread them.

[identity profile] texanfan.livejournal.com 2008-05-26 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm wild about Chiana. Not only is she everything you said but she's utterly ruthless as well. I remember her killing a guy who wanted to use her voicing her only regret, it wouldn't hurt enough. Someone she was really mad at got digested slowly. I'm not sure what my love of ruthlessness says about me. I doubt it's anything good.

Which is actually one of the reasons I love Granny Weatherwax. a ruthlessly practical woman who never allows people's dearly held expectations and beliefs get in the way of what needs to be done.

Amelie is more like the original Cinderella than any of the cleaned up versions. :)

[identity profile] timeofchange.livejournal.com 2010-03-05 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Trixie Belden! *hearts her like crazy*

[identity profile] sroni.livejournal.com 2010-03-06 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I LOVE Trixie Beldon! I grew up reading my mom's old books (the books went out of print the year I was born), and I was ecstatic to find out they were being re-printed.

Trixie was who I wanted to be before I wanted to be Buffy or Faith.