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liz_marcs ([personal profile] liz_marcs) wrote2007-08-09 07:18 pm

I Just Pinged LJ Regarding the Issue of Linking

Right now, an awful lot of people are saying LiveJournal will ToS your journal if you provide even a link to material LJAbuse would deem ToS-worthy (using, of course, LJ's invisible guidelines that we — the customers and content providers — have yet to see) as if you were hosting the content on the LiveJournal servers.

I'm not talking about displaying images that are hosted on another site (i.e., Photobucket or DeviantArt) using the <<img>> tag.

I'm talking about just providing a link to content or an image using the <<a href>> tag that LJ Abuse deems ToS-worthy.

See the response this user got when he/she asked that question.

Another LJ user asked the same questions and got the same response from an LJ/6A employee. (H/t to [livejournal.com profile] wesleysgirl for the link.)

Note that this new off-site linking stance is in direct violation of LJ's own abuse policies.

I want to be clear: I'm not calling the OP a liar, but this response beggars belief as far as I'm concerned,  especially since Web sites change all the time and it's not that hard to imagine a once-innocent link to, say to an article on SuicideGirls (warning link may be NWS), could suddenly become rife with problems.

So I decided to ask Support for myself.

Within seconds of me posting my request Support tagged it as private, so good luck seeing Request#: 797739 if you want to confirm that I did, in fact, do this.

I'll just have to give you the text of what I asked:

There is currently a rumor going around the user base that LJ/6A would delete or suspend a journal if the user links to a Web site or Web page that contains content that the Abuse Team deems as objectionable.

I'm not talking about displaying an objectionable image hosted on, say Photobucket, and linked using the "img" tag.

I'm talking about linking to a site or an image using the "a href" tag.

So, for example, I post a link to a Web site( a link and nothing more) and say someone reports the entry to LJ Abuse.

If LJ Abuse deems that I have, indeed, linked to material that would otherwise get me ToS'd if LJ servers were hosting it, would my account be suspended/deleted because I merely posted a link to another Website?

Thank you for your prompt response on this matter.


As soon as I get a response, I will post it here.

Either that, or LJ is going to ToS me for posting a link to SuicideGirls.

Screw it. If this journal disappears, that's a pretty much solid answer, don't you think?

[identity profile] nidoking.livejournal.com 2007-08-10 10:52 am (UTC)(link)
So... why are you posting that link? What's the context?

[identity profile] diachrony.livejournal.com 2007-08-10 01:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Nice phrasing.

I was using YOUR example. *I* am not posting any such links, nor do I have any interest in doing so. Just to be clear.

Does the context matter? So far, in their responses on this issue, LJ has not indicated that context is important to them, merely the presence of a link to something they find objectionable.

It could very well be posted by someone horrified at the fact that there is a site on the web that instructs on making these devices. Maybe they're making an f'locked post and trust no one who is on that reading list is in any way inclined to make harmful explosive devices, but they include the link so others can see for themselves that the site does indeed exist and they're not making it up.

Still, that may well be irrelevant to LJ's decision-making process. They have said f'locking makes no difference and have not yet indicated an interest in context.