liz_marcs: Jeff and Annie in Trobed's bathroom during Remedial Chaos Theory (Gunn_Bitch_Please)
liz_marcs ([personal profile] liz_marcs) wrote2007-06-21 08:22 am

Oh, for Heaven's Sake...

Dear 6A/LJ,

When I said I wanted clarification of your policies, this was not what I meant.

I meant clarification, not "the ToS hasn't really changed" followed by a bunch of vague statements that still doesn't actually say anything and still doesn't clarify what is and is not acceptable on LJ.

In case you're wondering, the issue is all about how you are interpreting the ToS. Since we can't read minds, we need you to tell us point blank. Which you're not.

And no, we're not whining. This is what happens when your user base has stopped trusting you. We're looking for loopholes where you could conceivably screw us over. This is about protecting ourselves, which obviously clashes with your need to protect your interests.

Really, the comments to the post say it better than I can at this point.

Look, answers in blunt English would be good here. Even if they're answers I don't like, something more than these vague statements and transparency that's about as transparent as mud is not an answer.

*throws up hands*

So much for that clarification...
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[identity profile] alicettlg.livejournal.com 2007-06-22 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
When you start storing stuff (ie., LJ posts) on servers in the US, you have digitally entered the US and what you place on those servers does have to conform to US law. While you aren't physically in the US and couldn't be arrested by US law enforcement, if you did this on a large enough scale, with child porn or identity theft, etc., it's likely an arrest warrant would be issued and depending on where you physically are, extradition might be sought to bring you into the US.

For blog posts, it's unlikely it would be large enough to interest law enforcement but 6A still TOSses you because the content is illegal. So US law is enforced on what you do, even tho you are not in the US. You can't insist that 6A keep your illegal content on your LJ because you're in some other country and when you signed up at LJ, you agreed to abide by the laws where 6A is located, not the laws where you are located. If you want a blog that allows content per the laws of your country, then you need to have it hosted by a service located in your country.

It's the same for me, I wouldn't expect to be able to host a website selling Nazi artifacts thru a French website - it's illegal there. It's not illegal here in the US but the French company would still TOS my website because the laws they must follow are French ones, not US ones.

[identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com 2007-06-22 09:24 am (UTC)(link)
I note that the examples you give are illegal in the UK anyway - and that you don't address the central concern here, which is that some activities that are legal and part of everyday life in the UK - most notably same-sex marriage, drinking and sex under US legal ages, etc. - are illegal in the US and just discussing them might now be grounds for suspending an account.