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liz_marcs ([personal profile] liz_marcs) wrote2007-06-21 08:22 am

Oh, for Heaven's Sake...

Dear 6A/LJ,

When I said I wanted clarification of your policies, this was not what I meant.

I meant clarification, not "the ToS hasn't really changed" followed by a bunch of vague statements that still doesn't actually say anything and still doesn't clarify what is and is not acceptable on LJ.

In case you're wondering, the issue is all about how you are interpreting the ToS. Since we can't read minds, we need you to tell us point blank. Which you're not.

And no, we're not whining. This is what happens when your user base has stopped trusting you. We're looking for loopholes where you could conceivably screw us over. This is about protecting ourselves, which obviously clashes with your need to protect your interests.

Really, the comments to the post say it better than I can at this point.

Look, answers in blunt English would be good here. Even if they're answers I don't like, something more than these vague statements and transparency that's about as transparent as mud is not an answer.

*throws up hands*

So much for that clarification...
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[identity profile] mara-sho.livejournal.com 2007-06-21 02:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I work with intellectual property issues online in my job, and although I'm not a lawyer (nor do I understand legalese at all) I frequently run across this simple phrase: "subject to the laws of [insert State/Province/Locale here] in the country of [insert relevant country here]." That means that although I'm in Scotland accessing content online, I'm bound by the laws (in the case of my job with electronic databases and journals it tends to be copyright legislation) of whichever country the supplier specifies.

As far as I can tell, neither LJ nor SA has an equivalent of that phrase in their ToS. Something as simple as that would help clarify the issue a little more.

But yes - as [livejournal.com profile] rileysaplank mentioned as well - age of consent is 16 in the UK, I believe there are countries where it is 14. A native of those countries talking about a sexual relationship with someone of that age would be committing an illegal act in the terms of US legislation, so where does one draw the line?

Sine SA seems to be trying to market LJ as a marketable commodity on the stock exchange, one would think they would have teams of lawyers and spin doctors analysing every single thing in their ToS to ensure that there are no loopholes or possible avenues of misunderstanding.
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[personal profile] abbylee 2007-06-21 03:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe something like this?
You and LiveJournal agree to submit to the personal and exclusive jurisdiction of the courts located within the county of San Francisco, California, U.S.A.
http://www.livejournal.com/legal/tos.bml
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[identity profile] mara-sho.livejournal.com 2007-06-21 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly - can't believe I missed that.

:)