liz_marcs: Jeff and Annie in Trobed's bathroom during Remedial Chaos Theory (Xander_Faith_Raw)
liz_marcs ([personal profile] liz_marcs) wrote2006-08-10 11:51 pm

Dear Evil Brain...

Yes, I know we've been working on the work project from hell since we got back from [livejournal.com profile] writercon. Yes, I know we'll be stuck with it for at at least another week. Yes, this means much of our at-home computer time is curtailed because we hates to stare at a computer screen after our day at work.

Yes, we know that we have to plot and plan our Dark Xander Fic-A-Thon entry because it would be pretty weak if we didn't submit something to our own fic-a-thon. It also helps that it hit me the other day that I have a germ of an idea that's been sitting on the ol' hard drive for three years that would perfect for this little caper.

However, I want you to explain something to me...something that's a true WtF in my world.

The original notion (and the original scrap on the hard drive) is from Xander's point of view. It would be tough to pull off, true, if only because you'd have Xander with holes in the ol' memory, which means he'd be fucking clueless about his state of affairs.

[Excuse me while I pause for a Cassie Claire-ish aside and quote Babylon 5: "There is a hole in your mind!"]

Explain to me, O Brain, how the hell Faith wandered into a story designed to have an all-singing, all-dancing, all-new cast of original characters? And what the hell is she doing in Toronto?

I mean, seriously...WtF?

And how did she plop her leather-clad ass in my office chair, and get those Doc Marten-clad feet on top of my desk? And why the hell is she informing me in no uncertain terms that this story belongs to her now?

I'm very sure this is a sign of mental weakness on my part. I do not go for this fluffy-bunny shit of other people's characters "talking" to me, nor do "muses" talk to me, 'kay? Maybe it makes me a weeeeee bit less of an artist and more of a journeyman writer, but I am veeeeeery comfortable in my blue collar writer's groove. You, O Brain, are fucking up my headspace. Stop it.

Is Faith, like, my avatar for the really dark shit when I write fanfic? Because that's the only thing I can figure out because I sure as shit had no plans to include her.

Unfortunately, making Faith the PoV character works better because: 1) the story will be that much shorter; 2) that much less complicated; 3) the mystery that much more interesting.

I hate you brain. I really, really hate you.

No Love,

Me

P.S., To everyone I owe emails and responses, work's been a-kicking my ass, not to mention I want to finish Facing the Heart in Darkness because...dayummmm...so close to the end that it's killing me. I will respond. As soon as RL stops using me as a chew toy, I'll be slightly more responsive.

*trundles off to bed*
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[identity profile] theantijoss.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
[utterly random B5 aside]The avalanche has begun. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.[/utterly random B5 aside]

[identity profile] liz-marcs.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
Not to mention: "You have always been here."
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[identity profile] theantijoss.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
Man, I wish I could afford those DVD's. I loved that show.

[identity profile] liz-marcs.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
That's what Netflix is for!

Wheeee! *who just saw B5 for the fourth time, but the first time uncut since it's initial run thanks to Netflix!*
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[identity profile] theantijoss.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh. I thought of that. Unfortunately... my queue is at about 432 items. I'll never get through them all. I just can't say NO! *G*

[identity profile] bastardsnow.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
You think that's weird? I was working on my dark!Xander story, and the only jossverse people I've got planned for the entire damn fic are Xander and Dawn... and then Gunn, of all people, just kind of shows up. I was all WTF?

Ah well.

[identity profile] bigsciencybrain.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
*giggles* You know you can make it work though, seriously. ;)

[identity profile] honorh.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
Faith is that way. She doesn't take no for an answer. Just struts in, throws you down, ravages you until standing becomes problematic, and then you're stuck with this story and watching her walk right back out, her tight, rounded backside--

Um, sorry. Had a Moment of Bi-ness there. Faith does that to me.

[identity profile] skipp-of-ark.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
Methinks your brain has simply decided, quite independently of you, or course, that it's been entirely too long since you wrote a story about Xander that also had Faith in it. In which case, I must agree with your brain. (Which is not a slam at all against FtHoD, but really, the only thing that story is missing is Faith meeting Eva and how exactly she would size up Ms. Swithin in five seconds or less. I'm just saying...)

[identity profile] ffutures.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 09:59 am (UTC)(link)
Weird thought - Is Forever Knight a TV program in the Buffyverse? Maybe it wasn't cancelled so soon without Buffy as competition, and is still being made in Toronto? You could have some fun with Faith accidentally getting mixed up with the action...

[identity profile] set-aka-ian.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 10:32 am (UTC)(link)
[George Michael] 'You gotta have Faith, Faith, Faith! You gotta have Faith!' [/George Michael]

Sorry. Couldn't resist. :)

My own entry feels half-done (prolly a quarter, I tend to maunder on at length), but I had to put it down because I was creeping myself out.

I really don't want to know what part of my brain can even think like that.

[identity profile] 4thdixiechick.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 01:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Adding Faith to a story is never wrong!

[identity profile] carmen-sandiego.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 01:14 pm (UTC)(link)
FWIW, I fullly support the ficcish use of Faith in My Dear Town :) Surely Toronto's got some vampires that need slaying...

[identity profile] silly-dan.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
There was that abandoned Hungarian restaurant on Bloor St., for one. I always thought it was a bit suspicious, myself....though they're making it into a bookstore now, so I guess it got cleared out.

[identity profile] carmen-sandiego.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 01:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah? Which part of Bloor St? I must be sure to walk by this and scope out Potential For Vampires... (and stop capitalizing random words..;) )

[identity profile] silly-dan.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
In the Annex, a couple of blocks west of Spadina. Here are a couple of relevant links: An old Q&A in Toronto Life and a more recent story in the Toronto Star.

[identity profile] szandara.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 01:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Dear Brain of [livejournal.com profile] liz_marcs,

Don't listen to her, she's just cranky because of work. We love you, little brain full of convoluted plotty goodness. If you want Faith, go with it.

Faithfully yours,

Brain of [livejournal.com profile] liz_marcs Fandom

[identity profile] faith-chaos.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Your Brain? Is Smart.

Adding Faith is never a bad idea, and I happen to love your Faith-voice. In fact, it was what made me like your stuff, email you, get that nice reply with all of those helpful links and reading your LJ and consecuencially[sp?] get my own Journal and writing more fanfic than I should. As you see, I owe much to your Faith-voice.

I'm not one for muses either, the whole skitzo vibe of that deal gives me th creeps, but I think that when something happens to you that has never happened before, you should at least check it out. An I so 100% sure I've heard that before, somewhere.

So yay, please listen to the voices in your brain!!! unless they're telling you to go kill something, then don't.

Loves your brain,

Faith [who was actually named that by her parents].
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[identity profile] faith-chaos.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
My aunt was schitzophrenic, she talked to people only she could see, so was my great aunt. So to me? Schitzophrenia is tightly connected to dissociative disorder. just saying.

Faith.

[identity profile] texanfan.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 02:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't worry about responding to me, I know how life can get and I'd rather you devote your energy to your craft.

That said, I've learned not to argue with my evil brain when it insists that what I intended be thrown out the window in favor of a different approach. Go with the flow, resistance is futile. :)

[identity profile] othercat.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 06:08 pm (UTC)(link)
*snickers*

I tend to be leery of folks with active "media fandom" muses, as they seem too close to the "Otherkin" fringe and make my teeth grind.

Oddly enough folks with "imaginary friend" original character muses don't give me that visceral "omg, get away from me you flake!" reaction--possibly because it's enough like role-playing that it doesn't give me the jitters.

I myself use "muse" in the creative-process/world building/characterization sense as I don't have the slight dissociative traits that make imaginary friends possible.

[Insert Random Zathrus Quote (probably the one about 'the One') Here]

[identity profile] jgracio.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I gotta agree with skipp_of_ark, you're clearly missing Faith.

About Dark Xander

[identity profile] averageshmoe.livejournal.com 2006-08-12 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Last night I was over at Spike/Buffy Central and they had a post NFA fic there where the Watcher's Council had 'voted' that Angel and Spike had to be arrested and returned to England to face charges for starting the fight with the Senior Partners.

It's one of those concepts that I wish the author would have put more time into developing, especially because I would have loved reading about just how you try someone for doing precisely what the Powers that Be wanted him to do.

The reason why I wanted to mention it to you is that I feel it almost qualifies as a Dark Xander story, cause in it he hates Spike and Angel.

That's it, that's all he does.

Discussion of what is going on, he hates Spike and Angel.

Big battle going on, he hates Spike and Angel.

Quiet moment, he hates Spike and Angel.

When he hates Spike and Angel, he hates Spike and Angel.

He's just a hitching post for a horse that's named 'I hate Spike and Angel.'

His sole purpose in the story is to keep hating Spike and Angel so none of the Scoobies stops for a moment to seriously consider what the hell they're doing. Which really isn't necessary because most of them are acting like absolute idiots to begin with in trying to capture/kill Spike and Angel even as the battle against the Senior Partners continues all around them.

Wanna bet that he does something really dumb at the worst possible moment because he hates Spike and Angel?

I won't say that I cared too much for the Xander character during the last two years of BTVS, by keeping him tied so closely to the Scooby Gang they missed any number of wonderful storylines that they could have used with the character. But he was one of the primary reasons why I started watching in the first place and reading him reduced to such a bitter, empty individual still hurts.

pgavigan

Re: About Dark Xander

[identity profile] liz-marcs.livejournal.com 2006-08-13 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Without more detail, it doesn't sound so much like a "Dark Xander" story so much as a Xander-bashing story (and to a broader extent, a Scoob-bashing story).

Don't get me wrong, that Xander hates Angel there's no doubt. I'm less sure about him hating Spike.

But even in canon, no matter how much Xander dislikes or has disliked either one of them, he is more than willing to take advantage of their presence and work with them when the need arises.

Now, could I believe that Xander would be actively working to get them arrested and tried in the story you've described? Sure. But based on canon, it would seem to me that he'd more than "because he just hates them" as a reason.

If the Council had a good reason ("they're knocking out the balance of power and that will spell a lot of dead people") or came up with a lie that sounded like a good reason, sure. I can see it. I can even see him doing something stupid thinking it was the right thing to do.

In short, a motivation is what separates a bashing story vs. portraying a character who's behaving poorly.

I mean, I may be a Xander fan, but I've definitely had Xander behave badly (to the point where I've been accused of bashing him a few times), but there's always a motivation.

By the way, I won't even take your bet that the author is going to have Xander do something stupid. I'll even go you one better and say that the author is going to make Xander "pay" for what he's done in the form of death, debilitating injury, insanity, and/or getting tossed out of the Scooby club and/or Council before the author is done.

And by the way...that the PtB wanted Angel to take out the Senior Partners is pure fanon. All Cordelia's kiss gave Angel was a vision of a plan that he had to stop. Angel came up with the notion to take out the Circle of the Black Thorn all on his own. Just IMHO. :-)

(Anonymous) 2006-08-13 11:12 am (UTC)(link)
Explain to me, O Brain, how the hell Faith wandered into a story designed to have an all-singing, all-dancing, all-new cast of original characters? And what the hell is she doing in Toronto?


Well most Canadians would have no problem believing that Toronto is the Hellmouth. In fact Sunnydale was probably framed.

D
(currently re-re-(etc)-reading Living History while waiting for a certain writer whose name rhymes with Mizbeth Larcs to continue posting a certain story that brokes off at chapter 46a.)