I think about to join you in being a total stranger giving TMI, but this whole entire discussion is bring back memories for me, some good, some bad.
Back in the day I was on the Grey Archives, cesspool of the net circa 1999. A group of them, including me, on there did adult RPG's DnD style with play by post. This group moved around a little before settling on RPOL, Roleplay Online, in the adult section.
During these time, my ex, who was the main GM, tried to start a Gor-inspired world and campaign settings. None of us had heard of it before the game let alone read it except the GM, one woman, and her husband. Three times the game was started and all three times it failed because all the regular women players couldn't even fake being that submissive, or the males that had joined the game just because it was Gorean/barb fantasy didn't like tables being turned when one incarnation we added male slaves along with veiled freewomen to give more variation in character choices. This more equal incarnation ran the longest until my freewoman put a guy in his place in the bedroom and squicked most of the male players.
The only female player that did pull being a slave girl off was the one that had read the books before and dealt with it by faking the submissiveness in writing while snarking to other in IM as she wrote her posts on how her character strung along the poor male she got partnered with by being passive-aggressive with so many veiled underlying meanings in her word choice.
I broke up with the GM eventually and the games always failed, but that isn't the point. The point is that a pseudo-slave culture where the emphasis is on sex is still a standard male fantasy even if it is totally Gor. The concept can be turned to the opposite by women as well. There's so many slave yaoi boy stories out there it isn't funny, and most of them are by women. I've even thought of reviving the ideas of that game and turning it into a more fair world in regards to both sexes with an emphasis on who actually holds the power in such a relationship.
It isn't the idea that's inherently bad, but, like anything else, it's the ones that take it too far that give off that vibe.
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Back in the day I was on the Grey Archives, cesspool of the net circa 1999. A group of them, including me, on there did adult RPG's DnD style with play by post. This group moved around a little before settling on RPOL, Roleplay Online, in the adult section.
During these time, my ex, who was the main GM, tried to start a Gor-inspired world and campaign settings. None of us had heard of it before the game let alone read it except the GM, one woman, and her husband. Three times the game was started and all three times it failed because all the regular women players couldn't even fake being that submissive, or the males that had joined the game just because it was Gorean/barb fantasy didn't like tables being turned when one incarnation we added male slaves along with veiled freewomen to give more variation in character choices. This more equal incarnation ran the longest until my freewoman put a guy in his place in the bedroom and squicked most of the male players.
The only female player that did pull being a slave girl off was the one that had read the books before and dealt with it by faking the submissiveness in writing while snarking to other in IM as she wrote her posts on how her character strung along the poor male she got partnered with by being passive-aggressive with so many veiled underlying meanings in her word choice.
I broke up with the GM eventually and the games always failed, but that isn't the point. The point is that a pseudo-slave culture where the emphasis is on sex is still a standard male fantasy even if it is totally Gor. The concept can be turned to the opposite by women as well. There's so many slave yaoi boy stories out there it isn't funny, and most of them are by women. I've even thought of reviving the ideas of that game and turning it into a more fair world in regards to both sexes with an emphasis on who actually holds the power in such a relationship.
It isn't the idea that's inherently bad, but, like anything else, it's the ones that take it too far that give off that vibe.